I'm still fascinated by the idea being bandied about that land surveyors should work without any of that pesky mathematics. I'm not sure where arithmetic fits into the grand scheme of things, but I suspect that it's "math" also. So what would it be like to try to survey anything without arithmetic or mathematics? Just to make it a sporting proposition, let's assume that a system of numbers is available and maybe even that highly theoretical Arabic zero, but somehow fractions have a distinctly arithmetical ring that rhymes with "math". >"I began at the mailbox that Rufus Tompkins said was his SW corner and I walked for 248 paces in a Northerly direction to a big cedar post with a knot in it that reminded me of Elvis after he had discovered carbohydrates. >"Thence I walked 335 paces (I think, but the ground was soft and I may not have done a good job of pacing) to a stone about the size of a watermelon ..." Maps would be a cinch to draw since nothing would need to be to scale. That would be too mathematical, of course.