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Plat Dimensions Don't Fit

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RADAR
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I'm working in an old plat from 1949, Lot 12 Block 2; page 2 of the attached plat.

I have 7 monuments and they all fit with the centerline geometry within a tenth. I don't have any in Huson Street, yet, This might help solve my problem; I'll see what's there tomorrow.

The problem I'm having, is getting the plat dimensions around my lot, to fit.

The old plat is hard to read; this is the best copy I could find, so far. Does any body see anything I might be missing? I've been banging my head on the desk all day; any help will be greatly appreciated!

TIA

Dougie

 
Posted : November 20, 2022 12:58 pm
Jitterboogie
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sounds like it's time for some Mathmagica!

😎 😋 😎 

 
Posted : November 20, 2022 2:15 pm
FairbanksLS
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You’re missing ten monuments. Sorry I can’t be more help. 😟

It looks like your SE corner is at the PRC. Am I wrong?

 
Posted : November 20, 2022 4:06 pm

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Dave Karoly
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That bulb thing doesn’t look right, like maybe there’s missing dimensions.

 
Posted : November 20, 2022 4:48 pm
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Williwaw
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What a wonky back lot line. Sometimes when the plat is too difficult to read I’ll comp the boundary and insert a tiff of the plat and scale it to the longest lines I have that check. I can then measure the lines in the image and compare to what I think record to be to see if they make sense relative to the line work.

 
Posted : November 20, 2022 4:59 pm
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Tim Libs
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This is what I came up with. I circled the 3 areas where my calcs differ from Plat. Very wonky plat...

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Posted : November 20, 2022 5:16 pm
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Williwaw
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Just a shoot from the hip WAG but looks like there is a missing dimension for a short tangent in SE corner of Lot 12. The arc labeled 50’ looks like it goes tangent for a short distance before hitting curve return on corner of Lot 11/12.

 
Posted : November 20, 2022 6:07 pm
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TickMagnet
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Lot 1  curve delta

88d32'34" +  91d27'26" = 180    

some flip flop blunder here

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Posted : November 20, 2022 6:30 pm
FairbanksLS
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@williwaw 

I thought the same thing at first.  Looking at the 40 arc distance on the lot to the north I’m not convinced that is the case.  They weren’t using CAD in 1949. If I wasn’t so lazy I plot the PDF and scale it.

 
Posted : November 20, 2022 8:45 pm

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RADAR
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WOW! Thanks @tim-libs !!! 

That was awesome!

I really appreciate another set of eyes, on tough surveys, this really helped.

Is this a great site or what!?! Wendell can Thank @tim-libs for my next contribution.

 

And thanks to all who gave awesome responses!

 


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Posted : November 21, 2022 10:28 am
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holy cow
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1949 with no software, no handheld calculators with trig functions.  Try to imagine how long it took to run everything out by hand using trig tables and a slide rule at best.

 
Posted : November 21, 2022 4:59 pm
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RADAR
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@holy-cow 

And @tim-lib had it in a couple of hours!

I wonder if he's looking for a job...

 
Posted : November 21, 2022 5:01 pm

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Tim Libs
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Sorry to burst your bubble, Radar, but working for myself for the past 5 years has been a game changer. Can't see myself working for someone else unless I'm forced to. That being said, I feel like I've learned so much from those on this site (instead of the echo chamber I find myself in at times with my previous companies), that it feels good to be able to give back when I'm capable.

 
Posted : November 21, 2022 5:34 pm
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holy cow
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I'm not sure why anyone advertises in the few surveying magazines left.  This is most definitely where they need to target their advertising budget.

Meanwhile, some of us could break lose with $10 to $20 per month as a thank you to the nice couple who do without certain things in life to make sure this site is up and running.  Others in this group could donate $100 to $200 per month and never feel it.  Some could even do more than that based on the benefit to the large number of surveyors they employ who SHOULD be spending time here every week.

Spread the word.

 
Posted : November 21, 2022 8:05 pm
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RADAR
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Posted by: @tim-libs

working for myself for the past 5 years has been a game changer.

I know what you mean; I could never go back to working for someone else.


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Posted : November 22, 2022 8:10 am

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