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Every 'Fire-Fighter' I've ever known impressed me as being at least somewhat of a Pyromaniac (including myself). 😜 

 
Posted : March 18, 2023 9:42 pm
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Back to Jitterboogie’s original post;

I have indeed taken the time on several occasions to explain my staking to the ‘on-site’ hands.  Oftentimes it cannot be avoided, but I do hate to leave a construction site without discussing my staking with the appropriate superintendent or foreman.  In the case of parking lot curb islands for example, especially those with multiple radiuses (the type I refer to as ‘pork-chop’ islands), I have gone so far as to paint the approximate TBC with the concrete form setters participation in order to assist them in their understanding of the stakes.  That all being said, I also ALWAYS ask to see their set of plans.  All too often I have found peeps setting forms exclusively off of my stakes and with no readily available plans in their possession.  I make it clear in contracts and also when on-site that my stakes are a supplement to the plans, and they cannot be correctly interpreted nor utilized without the current plans in hand.   Big talk I know.  I have worked for Engineering firms that failed to provide me with ‘our own’ latest updates/revisions.  Grrrrrrr!  

 
Posted : March 18, 2023 10:23 pm
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Posted by: @cv

Back to Jitterboogie’s original post;

Yeah, back before I ran away from construction staking services; I would usually give them a stake at the radius point.

 
Posted : March 19, 2023 8:20 am

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Posted by: @brad-ott

Posted by: @cv

Back to Jitterboogie’s original post;

Yeah, back before I ran away from construction staking services; I would usually give them a stake at the radius point.

we only give them for bigger curves or the MCP, mostly because they don't give two $πits about the surface prep and I don't stake junk points for the sake of staking.

our contract has specific language on what we do or don't do and I always reference to my boss when anyone wants to change things that change what we agreed to do.

Kinda like the Super on a site that wanted me to move his crane pad points to better fit the not so great dirt work that was left behind.  Can I do that math, you bet your ass. Am I going to field engineer new points on the fly to incur new liability that is aimed at my company and my bosses license, hell no. Phone call and his new calcs later and I'm all set.  Everything is done for and with a reason.

Speed isn't the most important thing in staking, but some people have begun to believe that it is.

 

We don't take those jobs.

 

 
Posted : March 19, 2023 8:39 am
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@jitterboogie word, brother.

 
Posted : March 19, 2023 9:57 am
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I’m a surveyor who has no problem making changes in the field.  That’s how you end up with “A” clients.  Granted, being solo makes it easier.  Prior to going solo over 20 years ago all that was necessary for my crews was a phone call to OK the change.  I had trained them and knew what they were capable of and trusted them to do their job. 

 
Posted : March 19, 2023 11:00 am

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Posted by: @fairbanksls

I’m a surveyor who has no problem making changes in the field.  That’s how you end up with “A” clients.  Granted, being solo makes it easier.  Prior to going solo over 20 years ago all that was necessary for my crews was a phone call to OK the change.  I had trained them and knew what they were capable of and trusted them to do their job. 

yep.

I'm not a surveyor yet, and know and respect my limits and the liability lines.

the big thing in this scenario was there is a building surrounding the crane pad and the elevation of the original calculated points was not going to work with the other bldg envelope position.

 

knowing what I dont know is important, amen to strong field and office relationships! With no plan set for the calcs I was done and done.

 

 
Posted : March 19, 2023 11:11 am
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