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Leica TCRA 1103 for sale
Posted by cf-67 on June 3, 2021 at 8:29 pmEverything works. Compares to the mm and a few seconds with 2 other, much newer instruments I use.
Thinking $1500 USD plus shipping. I am in Canada.
timd1971 replied 2 years, 9 months ago 6 Members · 18 Replies- 18 Replies
Forgot to mention – 360 prism included! Not Leica, but has correct Leica constant and is well made and agrees +/- 1mm with a Leica GMP101 when I tested it. Soft case as well.
Where, roughly, in Canada? Do you know if these older 1100’s need a Geocomm license to work w/ Carlson? This one seems to have a laser, correct? Is it the motorized, non-robotic one or the completely manual one? Thanks.
Thunder Bay. A long drive from Toronto ????
Geocom is installed. I use it with Carlson SurvCE.
It is fully robotic, meaning motorized and with automatic target recognition (ATR) and tracking (will follow a moving prism).
Will turn automatically to a point. Everything a robot is meant to do.
TCRA Plus was the top of the line model. But remember this is 20 years old
Laser pointer, yes.
To run robotically from the pole you will need radios, bluetooth or otherwise. Those are not included.
Sounds to me like a $7,500 value.
You’re too kind! I don’t think it’s worth quite that much – there are many on ebay priced at 4,5,6k, that never seem to sell, and when one comes up for auction, they usually go for around $1500.
One the one hand I worry about something going wrong and the difficulties of finding parts and repair – one the other, I’m not sure anyone has made anything significantly better in all the years since. Mostly just extra gizmo’s and tech, but better? This is a beautifully made rugged piece of engineering from the Swiss gnomes and I’m only selling it to get another different model from the same series..
Thanks for keeping my posting bumped Brad!
I sold basically the same instrument for my employer, for the same price (but without a prism). Anything else similar on eBay was double the price. I think it’s a good value.
I’m not sure how fast these old things are but I use the 2010 1203+ model daily for construction layout and it seems pretty good. I’ll be comparing it to a new Trimble sx12 soon.
Do you know how they compare to the 1200+ series?
I’ve only used the Sokkia SRX and the Sokkia iX and Topcon GT and the Leica 1200 beats all of them in most ways.
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Do you know how they compare to the 1200+ series?
I now use a Geomax Zoom80R, which is the near-equivalent to a 1202. It might be just a tad faster than my TCRA1102plus, but in my opinion the chief functional differences are the BT radio handle and an improved display. Doing away with all the cabling necessary to run an external radio is a major convenience.
@jim-frame
It’s kind of amazing that they were making robots that good 20 years ago.
With regard to value, as has been mentioned the price is attractive as long as nothing breaks. If one of the internal boards go bad — and they do — it might not be feasible to get it repaired. But getting a robot of that quality for $1500 is an easy way to go robotic. You’ll still have to add radios (I highly recommend generic BT over the proprietary Leica setup) and a data collector, but the radios don’t cost a lot and you’ll need the latter in any case.
@jim-frame
The Parani’s have been working on my 1200 for the past few months now. Once I got a long antenna on both ends range issues are almost non existent. My only issue with the Parani’s now is battery drain on my tablet but that seems to be a Fieldgenius issue.
It was probably $500 total for the Parani’s and everything I use for my setup with the 1203+.
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@jim-frame
It’s kind of amazing that they were making robots that good 20 years ago.
But we landed on the moon 50 years ago!
The first time anyone sees a robotic TS following a prism they go “Whoa Cool!”, but it’s pretty old technology really.
The bluetooth handle for the 1200 was a big improvement over the 1100 – and powersearch (that could be retro fitted to the 1100’s, but many out there, like mine, don’t have it).
I actually find the old monochrome dot matrix display on an 1100 easier to read in sunlight than than the newer tech screen of the 1200.
The 1100 EDM was +/- 2mm, I think the 1200 was +/- 1.5mm
The 1200’s were awesome – they may be the absolute zenith of robotic technology along with the Trimble S6. Since those days, they just seem to be adding more technology, but not really improving the basic performance.
It’s good to know that nothing has improved that much. I know it definitely did not on the Sokkia ix series which is why it got left on the shelf. Soon I’ll be trying out the sx12 just as a robot doing layout to get an idea what the newer Trimble robots are like.
I do wish I had a camera to see what the instrument is looking at sometimes and the auto HI feature on the newer leica’s but other than that the 1200 is pretty solid and reliable for my 12+ hour days. I actually appreciate the lack of touch screen when I have to wipe the dust off to see the display.
I did think the monochrome screen looked cool on the 1100 that we sold but I only tried it out in my basement. I didn’t have the Parani’s yet to try it robotically.
So without power search what exactly is missing? Being able to search right or left whichever I tell it?
They can still search and find the prism with ATR correct?
Sorry for derailing this thread but I figure the more traffic the faster it should sell for you. Lol.
Without powersearch, if the prism isn’t in the field of view, you have to use the joystick controls to manually steer the instrument until it is, usually using the EGL’s (those flashing red/orange lights) to help you.
Once the telescope can see the prism, ATR and tracking work as any other robot, it’s just not so effortless to get to that point. It’s doable, but it’s a chore.
Yeah for my work is definitely need powersearch. It would work as a backup robot in a pinch but for everyday productivity working solo it’d be a requirement. Not a big deal if you have a helper though.
This was sold locally. A small donation went to Surveyor Connect anyway.
Thanks for looking.
Uhhhh…. yeaaaah…. that was a steal. : (
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