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Andy J
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I've been licensed in Florida for over 20 years, and have a BS from New Mexico State..   Lately as my kids are getting out of the nest, I've thought about getting licensed in my home state of Illinois and maybe do some "snowbird" type surveying.  ( I work for myself here in Florida)  Might be nice to avoid the crazy heat and hurricanes for a bit, then come back when it's nice.   

So,  I've just started looking through the state rules, and have to say I don't see where I fit into the flow chart of requirements.    Anybody have the info on what it would take for a Florida PSM with a BS in surveying to get an Illinois license??  

 

thanks.

 

Andy  

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I'd say you're covered with the BS in Surveying and ample enough experience.  I live in the St. Louis metro area so it's quite common for surveyors to work both sides of the Mississippi.  Getting licensed on the IL side is way harder though.  It doesn't matter if you have over 20 years experience, licensed in 3 states, and your AS in surveying has more survey hours than the 24 required by IL, (this all would be me) they won't even consider you without the BS.  Yes, it's a sore subject with me, lol! 

In all seriousness, you should be just fine to apply.  If you need any additional help, my company has a plethora of IL LS's that I can ask.  

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@jflamm 

 

Thanks!   I started surveying in Illinois in the early 1990's...  and couldn't get licensed so I left to go to NMSU.  

 

Andy 

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@andy-j 

GoAggies! 

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I'm not licensed in Illinois but I was educated back there. It's a degree state so your BS is what they look for. So long as you have the required credits in the necessary classes they'll let you sit, and you should be good with a survey-specific degree.

Illinois is a continuing-ed state but I believe Florida is too, right?

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yes, it is!  

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IL rejected my BS, rejected my UMaine Graduate Certificate in Surveying, and my 36 hrs post-bac survey courses. IL Board states that all work must be completed with your BS and all subsequent work does not count. I applied once, re-applied after additional course work, and then asked for an appeal. All denied.

I work for the Federal Government now so I don't need it anyways since we don't do "boundary" work. 

IL is by far the most difficult state I have dealt with to get licensed. The numbers are spiraling. I would guess that nearly 95% of IL surveyors in StL metro are over 60 and were grandfathered in when the rules changed back in the 2000's. 

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wow, that's pretty crazy.    I see you have 6 state licenses too.   I'll contact them and see what they say.    If your stats are right, it sounds like there's a market for an under 60 license-able surveyor.  

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@andy-j Yes there is a huge need for IL surveyors in StL with 6 figure salaries as well. Every firm in town is hiring.

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@andy-j He's not kidding. I get hit up 1-2 times a week with crazy offers.

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@stlsurveyor 

Did a bunch of the older grayer PLSC move to Illinois recently???? 🤨 😎 

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IL rejected my BS, rejected my UMaine Graduate Certificate in Surveying, and my 36 hrs post-bac survey courses. IL Board states that all work must be completed with your BS and all subsequent work does not count. I applied once, re-applied after additional course work, and then asked for an appeal. All denied.

I work for the Federal Government now so I don't need it anyways since we don't do "boundary" work. 

IL is by far the most difficult state I have dealt with to get licensed. The numbers are spiraling. I would guess that nearly 95% of IL surveyors in StL metro are over 60 and were grandfathered in when the rules changed back in the 2000's. 

You've got to be kidding me Ryan!  I'm glad you posted this because I've looked into this after you went through the UMaine courses.  I will scratch this idea for sure.  It was only to get into IL.  

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Wow, that's ridiculous. I see how they get there from the statute, but the appear to have taken the most restrictive interpretation to no one's apparent gain.

The statute language is similar to many states that allow post B.S. course work to be used to qualify.  

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I'm looking for something similar.  Would love to avoid these oppressive Vermont summers, then come back for the winter when it's nice again. 

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