On this thing of participation by equipment vendors, or their reps
Things like putting in your signature that you work for a supply company, or get paid, or compensated by Topcon, Trimble, or Kara, or if you have financial ties, to motivate your posts. Those are very good things.
I would welcome and encourage participation from these types of persons. I especially appreciate technical assistance. "That Cad Girl" is a good resource.
And, to put in your signature, that this relationship exists, is a good idea. If you find this forum helps you sell, send Wen some dinero. Mucho Dinero.
When I was a kid, (I was born in 1965, and had all my switches turned on early) so, my earliest surveying memories, come from when I was 6 yrs old. I cut up a bunch of dad's 4' lath, and made me a village, for my trucks, and dozers. (Got a minor whooping for it too!) I had to sacrifice, and buy dad a couple more bundles too! I remember my first plumb bob at 8. I remember learning to chain, in 1974, etc. Worked on a crew that used a Beetle EDM when I was 9 or 10. We had to go our EARLY to beat the sun waves, or heat waves, because it was a long shot. I could barely recognize the target through the inst. I was running a crew when I was 15, and had no drivers license.
So, during all these formative years, I dreamed of getting an EDM.
We did not get one, until 1986. I was 21. But, being involved in survey procedure is a definite part of our professional development. What equipment does, and how it works, is an integral part of data analysis.
I have worked without batteries, for many years.
As such, I relate to transits. I love T-2's, and I want a T0.
And, I encourage the younger surveyors, SIT's to listen to the shuck and banter, on this forum. You learn between the cracks. Reading between the lines.
It's all a part of the fabric of a surveyors life. Dream of the best surveying equipment, money can buy. Dream of "Doing it right".
It's a piece of what we are. To mentor others, to include the next generation.
To keep up with progress ourselves. To stay current, with procedure.
We need input, from the vendors, so long as all possible conflicts of interest are disclosed.
I remember an article, about children, and TV commercials. Children tend to view TV as "It was on TV, it is common knowledge, and fact", instead of considering the bias of commercials. We also need to teach this to our children, and the next generation.
So, I say, come along, post stuff. And, encourage Wendell. Send 'im a some money. This forum is not free. Nor is equipment. Nor is surveying. But, the campfire talk from this forum is sometimes just as important, or MORE important, than the formal education we do.
So, keep it productive, Keep it surveying, Keep Wendell on line, Keep learning. Make the world a better place.
Retracement. It is good to know and understand what kind of equipment the previous surveyors used.
I agree Nate. Disclosure through the signature line is a good way to let people know which way your bread is buttered. I want a T0 as well 😉 and a T4 while I am still dreaming.
There is a fellow in Hot Springs with a Wild T0 theodolite compass. I've yet to gather sufficient 'trading' material to make a deal. I'd bet he would swap for your Javad 'even up'...wait...he already has a Javad.
We have a few old T1's and a T2 sitting on the shelf with many old Gurleys here at the county. I don't think these guys got EDMs until the late 90's. Now we are all Robotic and Virtual GPS.
I have this Gurley in my office.
It is constantly getting bumped by the cleaning lady or by people coming in and jacking with it. So I am always Leveling it back up...bugs me when it is not.
Still has a County Asset tag on it and is in the inventory!
Couldn't agree more Nate!
Like my Signature says, I'm not out here trying to drum up sales and hand out kool aid, Just trying to help!