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NASA promotes $100k Land Survey Automation Challenge
Posted by leegreen on May 5, 2021 at 11:08 amI recently learned about a project challenge that is seeking innovative ways to use drones and high altitude platforms for land surveys. NASA to put out prize challenges to solve problems and spur innovation. NASA Land Survey Automation.
There will always be a need for boots on the ground for boundary work for a licensed surveyor. I’m not sure they understand this.
This will be interesting to follow.
joe-b replied 2 years, 10 months ago 11 Members · 13 Replies- 13 Replies
Thanks for sharing.
This part pissed me off:
The Problem
Can you disrupt an industry stuck in the stone age? Tech is sweeping across every single industry, turning traditional business models on their respective heads.
Next up? Land Surveys.
That’s the problem.
We’re not stuck in the stone age.
People just don’t know what land surveying does still.
Maybe we start by requiring commercial real estate starts paying more attention to the value survey is bringing them rather than over inflation of the limited resource of retail space and housing because they are too greedy to be the biggest and most wealthy.
And closing….
Surveying represents the truth, what’s actually there on the ground and in reality.
In the new age of mouth piece social media influencers, truth has no more value…….
(Mic drop)
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(Mic drop)
Totally off topic: this meme needs to go away. A microphone is a delicate instrument that typically costs $100 to $700. It is likely to be damaged when dropped by those who take the term literally, most often not the owner of the mic. It can also blow out speakers.
As a part-time sound engineer (before Covid) I say let’s change that to “prism drop” for surveyors and see how popular it is.
And get off my lawn. 🙂
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I owned a sound system Bill. Duly noted. If the compressor/limiter is dialed in, it’s usually a stunt mic to drop, not say like a Senheiser MD441 which I had the displeasure of dropping and it was an expensive diaphragm to replace.
Lawn cut but not bagged. 😉
Additionally….only $100,000.00????
That further implies the devaluing of survey.
6.66×10-9 portion of 15 trillion. Screw you social media. I can build a website. Can you research find a defend a section corner or anything of value in land surveying?
(Mic left on stool in spotlight on full gain for massive feedback screech)
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I just fell into a fun YouTube hole by searching directly on YT:
??Land survey automation challenge.?
Either that html helped the thread formatting, or just being on a second page. Either way, much better.
.The other day I hiked through a swamp, had to crawl over a woven wire fence, then needed to pound a monument in near a stone across the fence line and stencil the cap. Sooooooo, I want to see the automation for that. Maybe a Star Wars type Walker or one of those robots posted a week or so ago. Sit in a VR chamber and direct it all. Imagine knocking on the door of a landowner and speaking with them through the voice box on the robot.
Me thinks NASA will not get there with $100K.
This is ridiculous! We are obviously stuck in the Bronze (Brass) Age, not the stone age! ???
- Posted by: @leegreen
I recently learned about a project challenge that is seeking innovative ways to use drones and high altitude platforms for land surveys. NASA to put out prize challenges to solve problems and spur innovation. NASA Land Survey Automation.
There will always be a need for boots on the ground for boundary work for a licensed surveyor. I’m not sure they understand this.
This will be interesting to follow.
I don’t see anything on the page from that link that NASA is involved.
- Posted by: @leegreen
I recently learned about a project challenge that is seeking innovative ways to use drones and high altitude platforms for land surveys. NASA to put out prize challenges to solve problems and spur innovation. NASA Land Survey Automation.
There will always be a need for boots on the ground for boundary work for a licensed surveyor. I’m not sure they understand this.
This will be interesting to follow.
A few thoughts:
No indication of NASA’s involvement.Legal agreement is dodgy as hell. E.g.,
“By entering, Innovator agrees that: (i) all Submissions become Challenge Sponsor’s property and will not be returned; and (ii) Challenge Sponsor and its licensees, successors and assignees have the right to use any and all Submissions, and the names, likenesses, voices and images of all persons appearing in the Submission, for future advertising, promotion and publicity in any manner and in any medium now known or hereafter devised throughout the world in perpetuity.
All intellectual property rights, if any, and all inventions, patents, patent applications, designs, copyrights, trademarks, trade secrets, software, source code, object code, processes, formulae, ideas, methods, know-how, techniques, devices, creative works, works of authorship, publications, and/or other intellectual property (??Intellectual Property?) developed by Innovator as part of the Submission will remain with Innovator, subject to the following condition:
If Challenge Sponsor notifies Innovator that Submission is eligible for a Prize, Innovator will be considered qualified as a finalist (??Finalist?). Finalist must agree to grant to the Challenge Sponsor a royalty free, non-exclusive license in respect of all such intellectual property rights, if any, for the purposes of commercial exploitation of the idea or concept demonstrated by the Submission. Notwithstanding granting the Challenge Sponsor a perpetual, non-exclusive license for the submission, Finalist retains ownership of the submission.”I’m not sure I’d describe it as a scam. They declare upfront what they are going to do – poach all useful ideas. But it’s still scammy as hell.
I would like to know if NASA really supports this. I don’t see anything about NASA on their site, or anything about them and NASA when I google it.
I don’t see how surveyors are “stuck in the stone age.” With robotics, laser scanners, drones, GNSS systems, etc. surveyors have been at the cutting edge of technology for a while. Surveyors use the technology that helps them and their business grow. Some surveyors don’t require the fanciest equipment for what they do, others couldn’t make use of it for what they do.
Many people just have no clue about surveying and don’t understand why every surveyor isn’t using drones every day. A drone is one of the easier pieces of equipment surveyors use. The people at Herox think that a survey is expensive because of the physical fieldwork. Their website also implies that “their invention” will allow developers to do surveys remotely. It is as if the only thing that is preventing anybody but a surveyor from doing a boundary survey is how difficult it is to physically measure around a property with a total station and prism
Obviously, research and analysis are a huge part of the price, and the education (whether mentored or whatever) needed to do that analysis properly.
How can you search for monuments under the ground using remote sensing? even under leaves? how can you find an old stone pile or grown-over blazes on a tree from a drone? an old wire fence lying on the ground? Again, they don’t have a clue.
I think I ran into these guys from Herox before. They are the people who stop me on the side of the road and ask “are you taking pictures with that thing?”
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