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OleManRiver
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Ok as I am learning this whole civil3d drafting thing and pulling my hair out.  I have started looking at different font styles. What do you like on your plats and as built drawings and why.  I am starting to develop my own little mark or brand as I get more time in. I spent all day today reviewing plans for errors and consistency as they were being done by different people to be combined. I noticed a lot of different choices sometimes even on same drawing. So as I did the checks and made comments my ls said how do you notice those things. I said i have no idea but it’s different. Anyway I want to kinda pick y’alls brains that have been doing this for a long time. What is going to be the most legible years from now.  What is easy on the eyes once it hits paper. I know hand drafting I have seen many that were far more cleaner looking than what was printed. I like fonts that make it easier to see the 8 vs 0 as they fade and words that are clean.  I just don’t know what exactly has proven name wise to be the best. Simplex my boss likes. Leroy I tested the other day in TBC. Any advice for a rookie drafter. Are much appreciated. 

 
Posted : January 12, 2023 5:57 pm
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I’m convinced anymore that no matter what I do the first print won’t be right. It always looks different after I print/plot it. 

 
Posted : January 12, 2023 6:15 pm
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@on_point yes. We are all in different locations so i am reviewing pdfs. Just checking the little things mostly before being sent out. But we do have a plotter/printer coming soon where I can test a little more on fonts .  Today was a hard push to finalize some stamped as builts. I was qa/qc raw data and getting the points to the correct drafter for different sheets. But we all made it through. Now i see all the different way things are labeled and such and i am a caver and alignment guy i like things consistent. Seeing anything different jumps off the page at me. Probably my imagery training kicks in. I see some lettering i like but nothing that just grabs me and sais this is it.  A couple years ago I was handed a plat for around 50 acres. Cut out of 200. When i saw that plat the lightbulb went off. I ran i. And asked my ls if he could introduce me to this guy so I could see if i could pay him to show me all what he did. The plat was from the 80’s and it was just clean nice. Nothing fancy just what i liked.  I said when i stamp my first one i want this font these line thickness and such. Unfortunately the guy passed and we inherited his ongoing work. But hopefully i will get a comment or two here that when i test it will be it. Lol. And you are correct you will find any errors as soon as it comes from plotter.

 
Posted : January 12, 2023 6:33 pm

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Jim Frame
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I'm not blessed with a strong sense of artistry -- so take my comments with a grain of salt -- but I use simple sans serif fonts for all map annotations. 

Romans, Romand are my mainstays.  I also use Bold in my title block, some custom shadow fonts built around Romans-like geometry, and my logo has some serifed outlined text.  But the map itself is almost all Romans and Romand.

Avoid using too many fonts on a map.  I've seen some horrendous creations that use an apparently random assortment of TrueType fonts, and the effect is super distracting, making the map unpleasant to read.

 
Posted : January 12, 2023 7:05 pm
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ARIAL!!!!!

 

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Posted : January 12, 2023 7:27 pm
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OleManRiver
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@jim-frame I am no artist either. I can barely draw stick men.  😂. I am a times new roman in word and excel all day. My wife gets frustrated and sais i am an ild man. Its just looks clean and easy to read for me. Yes i saw that today reviewing sheets as many different fonts on same types of labels. Drove me nuts. Thank you i will surely try it out.

 
Posted : January 12, 2023 7:41 pm

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OleManRiver
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@jitterboogie Is that your girl friends name. Lol or what. Just kidding. I will try that as well.

 
Posted : January 12, 2023 7:42 pm
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@olemanriver 

well,Arial Bold.

You owe me a beer, I saved your life by the hands of my better 2/3s.

 

We're going to have a fun sit down someday.  in the words of Justin Wilson " I gaurontee!"

 

 
Posted : January 12, 2023 7:49 pm
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Dave Lindell
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Tahoma.  Clean, clear, crisp. You can see it on the Test Yourself problems in the American Surveyor magazine.

 
Posted : January 12, 2023 8:23 pm

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Posted by: @olemanriver

Simplex my boss likes. Leroy I tested the other day in TBC. Any advice for a rookie drafter.

Select a "Truetype" font, and not a "Simplex" one. The line weight of "Simplex" type fonts is dependent the current lineweight setting. Truetypes, such as Arial, Tahoma, Swiss, or Calibri will plot the same no matter what pen/line weight or color is used.  If you want Truetypes bolded you select bolding. But the proportions remain true.  

https://cadpanacea.com/wp/?p=2854

 
Posted : January 12, 2023 10:36 pm
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Keep it simple, clean and crisp. Arial or Arial Narrow, and vary it with bold, italicized, or bold and italicized. This font seems to be the best at maintainning legibility from poor copying and printing as well as scanning for recording. 

I have seen firms try and use fonts that mimic hand lettering or something fancy and they, well, just suck. Not to mention the font type bloats the drawing file size. 

 
Posted : January 13, 2023 4:00 am
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OleManRiver
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@norman-oklahoma That was an interesting read. Thanks.

 
Posted : January 13, 2023 4:10 am

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OleManRiver
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@gary_g Thats a mouth full. I never knew there were so much to know about fonts.  I like your reasoning. Explanation.  I am a keep it simple stupid kinda of person. For sure.

 
Posted : January 13, 2023 4:22 am
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I don't have the patience for drafting.  I really do appreciate when a company has taken the time to create a company C3D template.  

 
Posted : January 13, 2023 4:40 am
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Posted by: @jim-frame

I'm not blessed with a strong sense of artistry

So true for me.  I'm probably the only non-artistic, non-creative lefty.  My left and right brains must be switched about

 
Posted : January 13, 2023 4:44 am
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