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Ramses
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I am currently demoing this software and I can't really find the option to " Go North/South- East/West" to point. I am using this feature in SurvCE and I thought that I could find it here as well. I hope there is someone here more experienced in XPad than me. 

 
Posted : November 7, 2022 3:13 am
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Not sure what your asking here? Is this to do with graphical display of which way to move when staking out or some function that brings up the next point to be staked out?

 

Typically I use the CAD screen and stakeout directly from there by clicking on point and then stakeout comes up as an option on the bar along bottom of screen.

 

Xpad not perfect but coming from using Lecia/Trimble/Javad find it's super easy to navigate and use, just not every single function but for overall cost of Geomax package was worth it vs the top shelf. I've tried survCE and only does grid/ground not ellipsoidal which is a deal breaker for geodetic/boundary work here plus the GNSS calibration routine is too inflexible (only get one chance, can't update as you find further points etc.) but I'm no power user of it and many on here love it.

 

If money was no object I'd be using Leica as like the fact you can control every little setting but I live in real world where cost is a factor and Geomax is better value overall for me as a solo business.

 
Posted : November 7, 2022 9:59 am
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@lukenz Leica software won't run the Geomax Zoom 95, so I can only choose from SurvCE (really buggy in its latest iteration on my DC), Field Genius, or X-Pad. Honestly, I like the X-Pad, but it is lacking this navigation to the point by N/S, E/W deltas. I got used to it in Lieca Smartworks and in SurvCE and I find it very useful in construction stakeout when the building gridlines are aligned with the N/S, E/W directions. 

 
Posted : November 7, 2022 3:26 pm

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@ramses 

Yep realise Leica won't run Geomax gear, I meant if I wasn't paying I'd have a full Leica kit but seen as I am Geomax is better value.

 

I use a Panasonic fz-b2 as controller which has awesome battery life but slower processor and only 180-200m range from robot, what controller are you using? I'm wondering about switching to a mid range smart phone with Bluetooth v5.0 for better range just not sure battery life on a phone will do 10 hours in field with screen on.

 

Not sure about that function you refer to sorry as never used it in Leica, just reference line which xpad does fine. Would hope your dealer could help.

 
Posted : November 7, 2022 8:00 pm
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@lukenz I installed the demo on my Samsung Note 10. It works ok. I didn't test the Bluetooth range yet, but the GPS search works really well. If I  decide to buy the XPAD,  I'd probably invest in a Nautiz X6, or X81 for the rain/glove screen mode. I wonder if the function buttons (F1  F2, Enter) on these can be programmed to "Measure". Voice commands seem to work ok as long as it is not to loud around. I can rarely find a spot where there is no heavy equipment within 30m. I've downloaded the Leica Captivate and Leica Icon simulators to see if I can find  the N/S, E/W navigation to the point in stakeout. No luck there either. Trimble Access and Fieldgenius seem to have it.

 
Posted : November 8, 2022 3:08 am
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Here is a link to the X-PAD manual. It has several references to stakeout settings and using various types of orientation.

http://www.benchmarkarizona.com/docs/X_PADUltimateAndroidsurveyUsersManual.pdf

This could be an older version of the manual, but hopefully a good starting point.

 
Posted : November 8, 2022 6:00 am

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@lukenz  Yesterday I had some time to test the Bluetooth connection between my Samsung Galaxy Note 10 and the Zoom95 equipped with the ZRT long range Bluetooth handle. I went to the furthest point on site from where I could still see the instrument and I was reading 286m. I'm sure it would go to 300m, unfortunately I didn't have the space to try it. I'm surprised the Panasonic thougpad's connection drops at 200m. It has a class 1 Bluetooth. My Archer2 has a class 1.5 Bluetooth and it is still connected past 300m.

 
Posted : November 10, 2022 3:09 am
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@ramses 

It's seems to be a mix of class and version that matters plus antenna design inside the controller. The fz-b2 is class 1 version 4.2 and see the Archer 2 is class 1.5 but older version 2.1 so in theory so should be better. In practice possibly software drivers or the physical antenna design within device matter a lot.

 

For example the latest Panasonic fz-s1 (replacement for fz-b2) which I had hoped would be my saviour scored an own goal. It is class 1 version 5.1 and my local dealer tested a demo one and range was good but not battery life. In the production one they redesigned the antenna and must have dropped power to save battery as that only gets 100-150m which is useless.

 

After seeing the attached document

have been wondering about a mid range phone like Samsung A53 (cheap enough, IP67, and from reviews has very good battery life) as don't have large DXF on controller but would make viewing the is pdf plan harder. Then mount it with https://www.tackform.com/products/motorcycle-phone-mount?_pos=2&_fid=130e9651a&_ss=c and a tough case.

 

Only reason I haven't pulled trigger is wondering if I really will get 300m (more importantly it ought to be more reliable at 150-200m), whether battery life will do 8 hrs solid screen on time and if I should spend a bit more to get one the comes with those electric stylus's that you can wear gloves with (be awesome in winter + could have a notes app to draw diagrams as I go rather that pull out paper field book). Panasonic fz-b2 is the devil I know so have been sitting on sideline!

 
Posted : November 10, 2022 10:31 am
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