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1923 Gurley I Just Bought

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I just bought a 1923 Gurley transit and tripod this morning. At first I thought that it had some steel parts but after looking it over it's solid brass which is nice. Anyway it looks to be in good condition but the 2 big adjuster knobs on the right side do not want to move. I don't want to force them so I thought I would post it here to hopefully get some advise on what to do. Shouldn't they move freely? Thanks in advance.

 

 
Posted : March 30, 2023 11:13 am
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Y level not a transit 

 
Posted : March 30, 2023 3:04 pm
John Hamilton
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@grant-brady WYE level

 
Posted : March 30, 2023 7:18 pm
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Yea I figured that out. I emailed Gurley and got my answer. I guess these harden up over time. I will take it apart and lube it. I will get it working again.

 
Posted : March 30, 2023 10:14 pm
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I stand corrected, John. Thanks. 🥴

 
Posted : March 30, 2023 11:51 pm
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Looks like a beautiful display piece at it's 100th birthday.

 

Do you mind sharing how much you paid for it?

 
Posted : April 1, 2023 6:49 am
Nate The Surveyor
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Q tip and kerosene.

Dad used to clean his Monroe calculator moving parts with it. It'll soften and dissolve old oil and grease.

N

 
Posted : April 1, 2023 11:01 am
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@notsomuch I got it for $50. I have completely disassembled it, Lube it, replace the crosshairs and it now works perfect. I think I am going to replace the crosshairs again. I used my own hair and it looks a bit big. I am going to try spider web. I think it will look better when focused. These pics are after all the work was done. Even though the sun glare shield is brass it looks rusted. I think that the paint that was on it had some iron additive in it.

 
Posted : April 11, 2023 1:58 pm
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The "rust" and discoloration on the sun-screen probably came from the salt on the operator's hands.  That's pretty common on brass tools for the areas that were touched often to be somewhat corroded, off-colored and worn. 

I would consider it "patina".  😉 

 
Posted : April 11, 2023 3:05 pm
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For crosshairs, you could try taking a polyester sewing thread and unraveling one thin strand out of it.  Not sure how smooth it would be but probably thinner than human hair.

 
Posted : April 11, 2023 3:08 pm
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Posted by: @bill93

For crosshairs, you could try taking a polyester sewing thread and unraveling one thin strand out of it.  Not sure how smooth it would be but probably thinner than human hair.

I think that would be curly and hard to straighten. I am going to try Spider Web first. It is what they used back in the day. I guess brown recluse spider web was considered to be the best 😲. I will say the optics are pretty clear. I can read the small signs on the hospital a half mile from my house.

 

 
Posted : April 11, 2023 7:25 pm
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I thought it was black widow spider silk that was in highest regard.

 
Posted : April 11, 2023 7:32 pm
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Posted by: @donten

I am going to try spider web

As I recall, the spider web gets dusted with lampblack to provide contrast.  (I've never replaced any crosshairs, I'm just repeating something I read somewhere.)

Edit:  I just did a search on spider silk crosshairs and lampblack and found nothing, so I must have misremembered.

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Posted : April 11, 2023 8:19 pm
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@jim-frame 

Interesting article on black-widow spider silk for crosshairs here: https://owlcation.com/stem/The-patriotic-black-widow-spiders-of-World-War-II   No mention of lamp black…

BTW, Black-widow spiders are under threat from brown-widow spiders see:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2363876-brown-widow-spiders-are-killing-off-black-widows-in-the-southern-us/

 

 
Posted : April 11, 2023 10:11 pm
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Posted by: @bill93

I thought it was black widow spider silk that was in highest regard.

According to Wakopedia it's Brown Recluse web that's strong and was used in surveying . From that page

(Surveying and astronomy

In older instruments, reticle crosshairs and stadia marks were made using threads taken from the cocoon of the brown recluse spider. This very fine, strong spider silk makes for an excellent crosshair. )

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reticle

 

 
Posted : April 12, 2023 9:00 am
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