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Carlson Legal Description writer?
Posted by FLS on July 11, 2012 at 1:07 pmI’m writing a legal with a lot of curves. How do I get Carlson to write “to a point of curve or to a point of tangent”?
thanks
sergeant-schultz replied 7 years, 7 months ago 8 Members · 9 Replies- 9 Replies
Although I haven’t used Carlson lately, it used to be that the descriptor for the point was placed in the Legal for the point.
Andy
You should be able to go to your custom settings in the legal description and set those wordings as your defaults for curve descriptions.
I rarely do a real-world survey so I am a bit paranoid about writing legal descriptions.
The technique I use to prevent goof ups is to us the Inverse with Area routine to get the parcel area to put into the drawing as soon as I work out all the boundary points. I begin this area summation at the point where I expect to start my legal description later. After you have placed the area label in the drawing, the program prompts to know whether you want to keep or erase the polyline the area summation routine generated. I save that line to about three different layers, one of which is for boundary annotation and another is for the legal.
I have generated the area summation off that polyline and then I use that polyline to generate the annotation for the boundary calls on the plat, and lastly, I use that same polyline to generate the call data in the legal description.
That way everything that has anything to do with the boundary in a survey of mine is based on the same set of linework. It doesn’t guarantee that I have not mistakenly used an incorrect point, but it does assure consistency between the area, the plat and the description.
Try entering what you need here.
Is there a way with Carlson 2016 Civil Suite to write a legal description based solely on a centerline? I know how to use the legal description for a lot but I’d like to use some of the same automated phrasing to describe the center of an easement, rather than the bare mathematical bones of a centerline information report. I realize I can close a shape and treat it as a “lot”, but I’m hoping there’s no need for trickery.
Thanks in advance.
PeterYears ago CAiCE had a legal description writer (actually all bearing outputs, mapchecks, map anno, etc.) which listed one+- out of every 60 bearings as North 35å¡46’60” East for example. We contacted their bug hotline and were surprised to be told that’s mathematically correct and would not be fixed. It also listed cardinal bearings as North 90å¡00’00” East instead of simply EAST, for example. Also submitted as a bug and rejected because “North 90å¡00’00” East” was mathematically correct. Not a big deal except we were producing thousands of pages of descriptions per annum, and paying upwards of $70,000/yr for the damn software. Extremely rare was the North 89å¡59’60” East instead of simply EAST goofup, which was called a “bingo” and triggered the boss buying a pony keg of beer for the office crew the following Friday @ 4:00pm. Maybe only once or twice a year.
Oh well, CAiCE had so many much more serious bugs like the dreaded from Bearing plus curve Delta <>= exit Bearing by +- a few seconds which required hand editing by the LS . . . We soon figured out the secretaries were really meticulous at search and replace so after the LS fixed the more subtle goofs, and edited in the bounds calls, monument descriptions, etc., he forwarded it to the secretarial pool for relabelling Bearings which was called “fixing sixties”.
You might can do the centerline with a point group, I am not sure. I have been doing lots of stuff with my points in groups lately, and it makes it handy to have the inverse, area, all that with just inputting the numbers once. I set my legal description writer up on point groups so they all match up. I saw someone abobve mention you make the changes for how Carlson words the text in the body of the description in the settings part of the command, but I set that awhile ago, and left it mostly blank, so I can put what I want with a text editor later. (I kept adding spaces in the wrong places, or commas doubled up, etc.)
Peter Hughes-Davies, post: 389653, member: 48 wrote: Is there a way with Carlson 2016 Civil Suite to write a legal description based solely on a centerline?
Yes, if the centerline’s a pline. Make certain the first node of the pline coincides with the beginning of your centerline and in the legal writer dialog box just pick your centerline as the boundary polyline.
Hope that made sense…been drinking cold beer in the hot sun since noon. It’s about nap-in-the-shade time.
Sergeant Schultz, post: 389702, member: 315 wrote: Yes, if the centerline’s a pline. Make certain the first node of the pline coincides with the beginning of your centerline and in the legal writer dialog box just pick your centerline as the boundary polyline.
Hope that made sense…been drinking cold beer in the hot sun since noon. It’s about nap-in-the-shade time.
Made sense to me . . and worked too! Thanks to all and especially danke shoen Herr Schultz. I hadn’t realized that Carlson Legal Description Writer would consider an open pline a “lot”.
Cheers!
PeterDe Nada.
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