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Trundle
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I have a question about the Indiana education requirement for 5 hours of Physics. The best I could find was a 4 credit hours class. 

 I have 2 coworkers (both Indiana LS's) who seem positive that won't be a problem as I "substantially meet" all other requirements. 

I have all the other education requirements, have 15+ years experience, and passed the FS in 2014 (in another state). 

Can anyone help shed some light? I'd like to beleive that I have enough as it is. Has anyone ever seen a similar situation? 

Thanks in advance for your advice  

 

 

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Posted : January 29, 2023 7:16 pm
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most likely the requirements are a physics class with a lab.  That's the meat and potatoes part of the course where we got to show the professors that we actually learned something from the lectures.  just a hunch.

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Posted : January 29, 2023 10:46 pm
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The best way to find out is apply.

 
Posted : January 30, 2023 5:52 am

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Do you have any other science or engineering credit beyond their requirements? I'd rather ask for substitution than waived requirements.

 
Posted : January 30, 2023 6:06 am
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@bill93 The state requirements say 11 physical science credits /, including 5 in Physics. 

I have 4 in physics (3+1 lab). Plus 8 credit hours in biology and 11 credit hours in chemistry. 

My.coworkers have your same sentiment - that I substantially meet the requirements, and 1 credit hour won't make a difference if I have the all the others well met. 

 
Posted : January 30, 2023 6:16 am
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While it's not unheard of to be rejected for such a minor thing, I'd be surprised if that one single item would block you from licensure. 5 credits is such a weird number...wonder how they came up with that.

Does Indiana recognize the NCEES Model Law designation? If you meet the requirements and plan on getting more than one license, I highly recommend getting an NCEES account and running through that process. Makes it a lot easier to apply to the bulk of states.

 
Posted : January 30, 2023 6:44 am
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Any credits in a hard, non-biology science that might be equivalent to physics? Perhaps electrical engineering? Historically physics and chemistry were different fields, although at the graduate level they've been overlapping more and more.

 
Posted : January 30, 2023 8:43 am
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@ashton besides the Biology and chemistry, I've taken biochemistry. (That was my major in college, before it became my minor). 

Also, these are the state requirements to sit for the FS, which I have already passed in another state. That was the other factor that led Mt coworkers to think 1 credit hour wouldn't matter.

 
Posted : January 30, 2023 8:48 am
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I wonder if the requirement was put in place when more colleges were on the quarter system? A class+lab in that system may have been 5 credit hours.

 
Posted : January 30, 2023 10:45 am

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I'm with Mkennedy, I bet it's quarter hours, which were and maybe still are popular in midwest community type colleges.  5 would equal 3 1/2 (your basic 4 semester credit physics course elsewhere).

 
Posted : January 30, 2023 11:06 am
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Posted by: @rover83

While it's not unheard of to be rejected for such a minor thing, I'd be surprised if that one single item would block you from licensure. 5 credits is such a weird number...wonder how they came up with that.

Does Indiana recognize the NCEES Model Law designation? If you meet the requirements and plan on getting more than one license, I highly recommend getting an NCEES account and running through that process. Makes it a lot easier to apply to the bulk of states.

I'll second and third this..

I have a similar path like yours, and the NCEES record has been a nightmare for me because I've been working during college, after college nothing survey related until 45 yo but wait, there's the geophysics and mainframe computers etc etc etc.  The NCEES record is like a second job at the moment for me so plan on the time to fill it out like they intend for you to do so.  They warn that you can't change anything once submitted and that fraud is not tolerated....they need to go smoke a big bag of weed and chill TFO a little bit...

Sorry.  Partial THRAC OVER

 

 

You're going to do great.  My references are rolling into the record now.

 

 

 

 

 
Posted : January 30, 2023 11:44 am
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@jitterboogie 

I've heard a whole lot of differing opinions on the ease of getting the MLS designation.

I worked full time while going back to school full time, so it was annoying that I couldn't use both (pretty sure working 2500-3000 hours per year while doing 12-15 hours of coursework each semester got me both experience AND education) but I think the degree made it a lot easier. I was approved fast, like within a couple weeks if I remember right.

I was told by someone who worked at/with NCEES for many years that it really does help to be able to concisely and clearly articulate exactly what they are looking for on the experience/progressive responsibility narratives. Apparently that is a big plus to the reviewers, they don't want to read a wall of text and try to decipher whether someone actually learned something or if they are just blowing smoke.

 

That being said, red tape and paperwork are a pain in the ass and I'm not good at it and I hate doing it.

So much so that I'm dragging my feet on going after ID and OR licensure right now, even though the MLS designation makes it super easy.

 
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@rover83 

 I'm just trying to build my first record so I can avoid losing anything or anyone else to random dying or retirement. the idea that they want to track every moment post highschool is absurd.

If I'm not asking to quantify survey or engineering related work, they can just overlook that. 

I'm not stopping now until I'm either dead or licensed, but my friends and SWMBOAAD is an Advance Practice NP and can't figure out what is so magical and critically important to make the process more difficult that joining a secret ivy league society and even the Pentaverate..

At the very least, it builds a nationally accepted record of my scholastic and work related activities for now and the future. Thats worth the pain of completing it. I hope.  It better be....

 

Fwiw....

The Pentaverate....

 

 

 

 

 

 
Posted : January 30, 2023 3:20 pm
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Interestingly, Vincennes general physics course (incl lab) is 5 credit hrs. Purdue, Cincinnati are 3+1 for general physics.

 
Posted : January 30, 2023 4:28 pm
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@mkennedy 

I really don't want to have to retake a class (and rememyall those damn equations) just for 1 credit hour. 

 

 

 
Posted : January 30, 2023 4:34 pm
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