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Gene Kooper
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As for what "grid" he used, I think folks are overthinking this again. I have a sneaky suspicion that he [ab]used the localization feature of his GPS black box with three points that are only 200 feet apart and in a straight line.

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Posted : October 14, 2021 7:35 am
MightyMoe
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@norm 

LOL, he is making an argument opposite of his conclusion......

"I do not think it means what you think it means" Inigo Montoya. 

 

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Posted : October 14, 2021 7:47 am
Loyal
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The "Subdivision(s)" in question were surveyed by a father & son team in 1964 & 1965 (both were Registered Engineers & Land Surveyors), and have been a notoriously festering boil on the local cadastral fabric ever since (particularly the exterior boundaries). Within the subdivision itself, little evidence of the original 2x2 wood hubs remain, and even fewer have been recovered over the years, and there is a hodgepodge of unmarked ReBars and various "subsequent" attempts to set property corners. In any case, it is a mess. I am only concerned with the exterior boundaries, and that's more than enough headache for me.

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Topic starter Posted : October 14, 2021 10:27 am

Williwaw
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Posted by: @mightymoe

The GPS thingy I'm guessing isn't the real problem. 

He found the original monuments and rejected them? "because of math"  That's a quote!!!!

 

@mightymoe How I wish this were isolated to just your neck of the woods. 

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Posted : October 14, 2021 11:07 am
Jitterboogie
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@loyal 

Is this from Park County by chance???? 🤨 

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Posted : October 14, 2021 11:24 am
MightyMoe
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@williwaw 

I'm lucky, I don't have this junk here much, a little of it, but it's minor. 

I do have a similar subdivision to what Loyal is describing and I have a big X drawn through it. There will be no one from my office working in that subdivision. Even if they do what I suggested years ago and form an HOA to get it "fixed" I will not be part of it. However, about 5 years ago I did do what Loyal sounds like he's doing and surveyed the north and east boundaries of it for a good client.

If Loyal steps across the boundary line and enters into the interior mess that's probably there,,,,,,I will be so disappointed with him,,,,,,,,STAY OUT OF THERE LOYAL!!!!!

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Posted : October 14, 2021 11:32 am

James Fleming
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Posted by: @mightymoe

He found the original monuments and rejected them? "because of math" 

Another proud graduate of the Donald Duck School of Boundary Determination

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Posted : October 14, 2021 11:35 am
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Loyal
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@mightymoe If Loyal steps across the boundary line and enters into the interior mess that's probably there,,,,,,I will be so disappointed with him,,,,,,,,STAY OUT OF THERE LOYAL!!!!!

Don't worry bout that ever happening. I have tied a few interior "corners" over the years in an attempt to identify the source of various monument "types" that I found along (or more accurately NEAR) the exterior boundary.

The primary PROBLEM with these subdivisions, is the [apparent] fact that he (the engineer/surveyor of the 1964/5 subdivision plat) didn't bother to perform even minimum research into what property the client actually OWNED, before he generated lots that extended into adjoining properties! 

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Topic starter Posted : October 14, 2021 1:09 pm
MightyMoe
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@loyal 

Glad to hear it, stand your ground!!!!

I'm too old for that stuff, still kicking myself for my bad judgement a couple of weeks ago. 

I had a job with a 1995 job # and didn't finish it till 2010, and that was only after the county took over and forced it to be finished. Same thing, a cluster of pins, moved pins, buildings over lines, into streets, everyone fighting......

No thanks!!!

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Posted : October 14, 2021 1:28 pm

Dave Karoly
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That note is confusing. Reject all pins due to mathematical ambiguities, fine, how do you stake your corners using the mathematical ambiguities?

My in-laws lived in a mountain subdivision. The front corners on the street are pretty good but it appears the Party Chief just pulled a 1/2” rebar out of the stake bag and shied it in the general direction of the rear corners, they were that random.

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Posted : October 14, 2021 4:57 pm
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