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What's a Surveyor?

Nate The Surveyor
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He's a TECHNICIAN. He has to understand COGO, and field procedure, and how to measure things, both angular, and linear. He has to be able to quantify the tolerances he measures things. He has to be able to ESTIMATE things. So that he can spot blunders.

He's a PROFESSIONAL. He can be designated such by the courts. He can testify. In his capacity as a SURVEYOR in court.

He's a MECHANIC. He has to be able to figure out how to fix the chariot, when things break. He has to be able to SPIN a bent monument, and estimate the center of where it originally was. He has to be able to change tires, dig out stuck vehicles. Understand erosion, and it's effects on monuments, and on the ground the monument is set in.

He's ROMANTIC. If he does not learn this skill, well, there is nobody at home, when he gets home, and then what's the point?

He's DIRTY. He has to get his hands dirty. Digging out old monuments, digging out trash, to PROVE it is not a monument.

He's CLEAN. He has to be presentable. So he can attend city council meetings, and communicate with Judges, Reel Estump agents.

He's TALL so he can see through the telescope.

He's SHORT, so he can get in the odd places needed.

He's PERSERVERANT. He keeps on, til he gets to the bottom of conflicting deeds, conflicting evidence, conflicting ideas, from his clients, from the others who have vested interest.

He's a JUDGE. He has to make determinations. Record measurements, vs his own. And make realistic estimates of tolerances.

He's a JERK. See a Steve Martin movie, to find examples. (!) Just kidding!

He's IGNORANT. He knows to ignore some things.

He's SMART. He knows what to ignore, and what to NOT ignore.

He's BLIND. Remember, justice is blind? This is so he will do the RIGHT THING, even when under pressure to do something else.

He's OPEN MINDED. This is so he can listen to alternative solutions, from other sources.

He's CLOSE MINDED. This is so he does not get confused, with bogus theories. (Grin!)

He's RICH. This is so he does not run out of money, while getting to the bottom of things.

He's POOR. This is so he can relate to some of his clients, who are broke too.

He's a DENDROLIGIST. He knows dendrology. He can look at trees, determine species, from long ago, and the partially rotted remains of old witness trees.

He's a GEOLOGIST. He can look at soil types, and stratifications of soil types, dates, and searching for old evidence of corners.

He's BENEVOLENT. He shares his expertise on SURVEYOR CONNECT.COM!

He Knows his COFFEE! Folgers or Community is pretty good.

I practically think this could go on for a few thousand lines.

Surveying is such a diverse pile of information, that we should keep learning. For our whole career.

Nate

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Topic starter Posted : June 22, 2022 11:46 am
Martin.au
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“He”?

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Posted : June 22, 2022 2:06 pm
holy cow
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A diplomat.  Working to find a way to bring opposing views together to get a satisfactory result for both sides of the issue.

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Posted : June 22, 2022 8:18 pm

ryancj31
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Folgers? I have to draw the line there. 

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Posted : June 23, 2022 12:25 pm
FairbanksLS
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He’s an ODDBALL who doesn’t fit into a round or a square hole…….

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Posted : June 23, 2022 1:46 pm
aliquot
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I guess I am not a surveyor.  I will usually go without before drinking Folgers.

But seriously, I assume it was done harmlessly out of habit, but "he" could pretty insulting to some. 

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Posted : June 23, 2022 6:18 pm

holy cow
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A surveyor is someone who gets paid to ask people questions, as in a poll.  A land surveyor is someone trained, educated and experienced in the art and science of the land surveying profession.  Grunts, tape stretchers, etc. are not surveyors.  They are employees of a land surveying firm.

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Posted : June 23, 2022 8:33 pm
Stacy Carroll
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Posted : June 24, 2022 9:23 am
JPH
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@martin_au 

I don't know the breakdown, but I'd guess that the American surveyor population is 99% white male, over 40

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Posted : June 24, 2022 10:10 am

Brad Ott
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Martin.au
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Posted by: @jph

@martin_au 

I don't know the breakdown, but I'd guess that the American surveyor population is 99% white male, over 40

Likely true, but then the question is, are we part of the cause? (Yes). 

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Posted : June 24, 2022 2:27 pm
Martin.au
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And there was given unto these wise men chains, and measures, and theodolites, and staves, and little flags, and sundry other gimcracks requisite thereunto; and the knowledge they had of these implements was equivalent to the understanding that a cow hath of a musket, and they went forth into the wilderness rejoicing greatly; and they measured the four quarters of the earth, and the surface thereof; but in straight lines only did they execute their skill, so that the earth became like unto a chess-board, and the Governor saw that it was good.

And it came to pass that as they measured the lands only in straight lines, turning neither to the right hand not to the left, lest their calculations should become disordered and themselves be lost; so did they mark out beautiful roads thirty cubits in width that went nowhere; others ran over perpendicular mountains, or through impassable swamps - many went into deep watercourses, or hideous caverns - and some did terminate in the depth of the ocean, or hung, suspended on lofty gum-trees; and the people were exceeding glad, but the working bullocks lifted up their voices and wept.

Pasquin 1867

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